Archie is discussing conversion funnel optimization at Shopify, where teams focus on moving users through stages like signup to activation.
Everyone is thinking about absolute number of people who made it through their 'stage' of the funnel. So instead of I'm trying to convert a bunch of people, a conversion rate, I just want more people to get activated. And then once you start thinking that way, you realize actually the best way to get more people to get to a step sometimes, and often they just get more people in the door in the first place.