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Crafting a compelling product vision | Ebi Atawodi (YouTube, Netflix, Uber)

December 03, 2023

Featuring: Ebi Atawodi (Director of Product Management, YouTube (previously Netflix, Uber))

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Problem documentation beats solution brainstorming

I call it top 10 things you should know. It's a living document. So in my org right now I've got quite a number of PMs and for each of those PMs in this living Google Doc, they literally put 10 things, like 10 problems you should know.
Ebi AtawodiDirector of Product Management, YouTube (previously Netflix, Uber) 00:32:44

You are nothing like your users

It baffles me the number of PMs who never go through their products and go through the onboarding flow. Because we're all in this state of using the product. But actually, that first step where I don't have the product, what does that look like?
Ebi AtawodiDirector of Product Management, YouTube (previously Netflix, Uber) 00:31:36

Conviction requires clarity and focus

If you have conviction and it's not clear, then you don't have conviction, quite frankly. If you're like, 'I think maybe we should, there are five things we should solve.' I'm like, 'Then you don't have conviction.'
Ebi AtawodiDirector of Product Management, YouTube (previously Netflix, Uber) 01:06:09

Vision must be tangible and visual, not abstract words

The vision needs to be lofty, realistic, devoid of any tech or limitations of today, and grounded in a very clear and potent problem. User problem.
Ebi AtawodiDirector of Product Management, YouTube (previously Netflix, Uber) 00:07:57
Regardless of what level you are in the company. So people say, 'Oh, I'm just a junior PM.' Whatever level, there is some micro macro vision that you need to have.
Ebi AtawodiDirector of Product Management, YouTube (previously Netflix, Uber) 00:05:22
I think about three concentric circles. So the core of your vision is your team. And I want to make sure my team understands the vision because I'm basically saying, 'Get on this boat, we're sailing to the vision.'
Ebi AtawodiDirector of Product Management, YouTube (previously Netflix, Uber) 00:43:50

Focus is saying no to everything except what matters most

What if I took away all your resources and you only had five, which is the one you're going to build? I do all these Draconian things that just force clarity.
Ebi AtawodiDirector of Product Management, YouTube (previously Netflix, Uber) 01:06:09

Product management requires loving the grind, not just the glory

Already start product management, doing product management before you're a product manager. Open up your favorite apps. What are the top 10 problems you see?
Ebi AtawodiDirector of Product Management, YouTube (previously Netflix, Uber) 01:30:04

AI changes the game: taste and judgment matter more than execution

If I could put all the research into Bard or ChatGPT and it could spit out a PRD, then you haven't done your job.
Ebi AtawodiDirector of Product Management, YouTube (previously Netflix, Uber) 00:36:19

Culture is a product you build for your team

If you don't intentionally evolve the culture, it will evolve without you. So culture is always going to evolve. That's just the way humans are.
Ebi AtawodiDirector of Product Management, YouTube (previously Netflix, Uber) 01:09:44

Writing forces clarity before building

I call it top 10 things you should know. It's a living document. So in my org right now I've got quite a number of PMs and for each of those PMs in this living Google Doc, they literally put 10 things, like 10 problems you should know.
Ebi AtawodiDirector of Product Management, YouTube (previously Netflix, Uber) 00:32:44

Cross-functional proximity beats process

Do you know your engineering manager's birthday? It's the day they showed up in the world. It's the most important day for them.
Ebi AtawodiDirector of Product Management, YouTube (previously Netflix, Uber) 01:24:36

Turn ambiguity into clarity - that's the job

Product management is clarity and conviction. You bring clarity and you have conviction.
Ebi AtawodiDirector of Product Management, YouTube (previously Netflix, Uber) 00:57:00

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