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Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better

May 16, 2024

Featuring: Jag Duggal (Chief Product Officer, Nubank)

12 quotes · 8 insights

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Build for 10x transformation, not incremental improvement

We're not trying to be incrementally better, we are trying to be fundamentally different. We want our customers to love us fanatically.
Jag DuggalChief Product Officer, Nubank 00:00:10

Startups win through extreme focus, not balanced execution

Concentration is what builds wealth, diversification is what preserves wealth. And you're a startup. You're not trying to preserve anything. You're trying to build something. It requires concentrated bets, not hedging.
Jag DuggalChief Product Officer, Nubank 00:48:36

Strategy is solving specific problems, not setting ambitious goals

Great execution multiplied by a poor strategy is a waste of everyone's time. And because the strategy isn't clear, you can waste a lot of time executing years and years against something that was destined never to work.
Jag DuggalChief Product Officer, Nubank 00:44:46
Strategy isn't an ambitious goal, it's not an aspiration, it's not a set of financial outcomes. It is a coherent plan for how you going to apply your strengths in a leveraged way against a core important problem.
Jag DuggalChief Product Officer, Nubank 00:45:41
We may not be right, but at least we are clear. Even if your strategy isn't right, you have a very clear idea of what was supposed to be happening.
Jag DuggalChief Product Officer, Nubank 00:00:36

Big bets require accepting failure as the price of breakthrough success

Concentration is what builds wealth, diversification is what preserves wealth. And you're a startup. You're not trying to preserve anything. You're trying to build something. It requires concentrated bets, not hedging.
Jag DuggalChief Product Officer, Nubank 00:48:36

Stop talking to customers when their answers become predictable

Don't worry about serving 1000 customers, taking three weeks. You pick up the phone, call 10 of them and nine times out of 10, by the time you've made your fifth call, you could predict what's customer six, seven, eight, nine and 10 are going to tell you.
Jag DuggalChief Product Officer, Nubank 26:27
If you don't have a hypothesis, you're going to spend a lot of time researching, you're going to get a lot of data back, qualitative, anecdotal or quantitative and you're not going to know what to make of it because it's not either validating or invalidating your hypothesis because there isn't a hypothesis.
Jag DuggalChief Product Officer, Nubank 00:35:56

Build for word-of-mouth, not incremental improvement

Only fundamentally different gets customers to tell their friends. Incrementally better doesn't cut through the noise and the volume of the noise has just gone up so much in the last 15 years.
Jag DuggalChief Product Officer, Nubank 52:46

Great products require perpetual dissatisfaction

"Ten-pole products" likely refers to tent-pole products - a company's flagship or most important offerings that support the entire business.

Good enough, isn't good enough. Is it great enough? Because that's the bar, particularly for some of our ten-pole products.
Jag DuggalChief Product Officer, Nubank 20:44

Product-market fit has clear measurement thresholds

The Sean Ellis score measures product-market fit by asking users how disappointed they'd be if the product no longer existed.

We rarely scale a project until we know the Sean Ellis score hit a threshold that we find really compelling.
Jag DuggalChief Product Officer, Nubank 00:00:22

The Sean Ellis score measures product-market fit by asking customers "How disappointed would you be if this product went away?" with 40% saying "very disappointed" indicating fit.

If at least 40% of your customers are not very disappointed, you haven't reached product market fit. We've generally moved it up to 50% because Brazilians are inherently polite.
Jag DuggalChief Product Officer, Nubank 00:15:24

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